M. ([info]m_supercomputer) wrote,
@ 2009-10-29 10:56:00
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Confusing-to-me political commentary of the day: here. Andrew Sullivan is a recovering conservative and an interesting blogger that I often agree with and generally find to be a good read. Which is part of why I find that post so odd/vexing.

Keeping pressure on Obama to deliver on his campaign promises on gay rights = definitely a good thing, mind, and I can also see being disappointed that more hasn't been accomplished on this front so far. But it strikes me as singularly odd to complain about the new hate crime bill's inclusion of crimes motivated by hate of sexual orientation (and, as he omits, sexual identity - making this the first national law to include transgender rights) as a "piece of symbolism" while complaining that the president's remarks weren't up on his blog quickly enough and that he failed to use the word gay. That's just so perfectly backwards. Possibly this is motivated by his own opposition to hate crime legislation in general - he maintains his old conservative belief that they're inherently unnecessary - or maybe it's just your standard Boomer pundit's preoccupation with appearance and symbolism as more important than even actual legislative gains.

ANYWAY. Have I mentioned my new tv crush? It's Top Chef's Kevin. He's a freakishly talented cook (he's dominated the competition so far, and it's a pretty talented group), nice to the other contestants, completely drama-free, seemingly good at everything (loves cooking meat, eats vegetarian part of the year, gave up a full scholarship to MIT to go to cooking school, weirdly good at throwing horseshoes) yet not annoying about it. Plus, funny.

Kevin: *talks about how he can eat 150 chicken wings in an hour*
Other contestant: "He didn't get fat by accident."
Kevin: "It's a personal choice."

Basically, he's a magical gnome of awesomeness.


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[info]shutterbug_12
2009-10-29 06:47 pm UTC (link)
I have trouble determining where I stand on hate crime legislation in general. Most times, I think it walks along a dangerous ledge and worry that it might lead to other law that makes me a little uneasy. It's hard for me to really come to a personal conclusion about it.

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[info]m_supercomputer
2009-10-29 08:08 pm UTC (link)
Well, but, it's not terribly different from drawing a distinction between first-degree and second-degree murder, really. Both involve differences in prosecution based on motive - hate crimes are similar to terrorism, in that they're politically motivated and intended partially to send a message to a specific group. And it's not like it punishes hatred qua hatred, only hatred that produces violence.

The biggest benefit, though, is that it makes these crimes federal as well as local - so if the local authorities don't particularly care about violence against certain groups, the feds are empowered to step in.

I think there's a strong case to be made for these kind of laws, but unfortunately my fellow lefties aren't making it well enough publicly.

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[info]shutterbug_12
2009-10-29 08:13 pm UTC (link)
Hmm. Those are all good points. I think my problem is that I haven't looked into it enough. That's something I should do. It's something--like so many other things--where you just can't depend on what you hear.

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